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Heather Young's avatar

These are all very thought provoking commentary. The idea of “correcting the wrong” came up in many of the responses; and so I wonder, where do updated policies like GDPR fall in relation to the notion of correction?

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Steve Johnson's avatar

In fairness, most of these issues have crept up on us. Way back when, I think we were all so astounded at what an incredible thing this Web was. It's amazing when we think back just how fast it grew. We debated how large our graphics cud be at MSNBC.com, based on what percentage of our users had 28.8 modems and how many 56.6. It took 3 minutes to download a 30-second audio clip. And then it took 30 seconds. And then we had this 15 fps black and white 2-inch square video. And then, amazingly, you could play it wirelessly! And fly out menus. And carousels for covers. There were no online stores, so no worries about somebody storing your purchases. In fact, we WANTED somebody to keep track of everything, that's why we had web logs, sites where folks showed us what they had found on the web.

Then we had cookies and they were great cuz you didn't have to sign in every time you visited a site.

I don't think anyone worried that having access to all of this amazing stuff would push us into silos. It seemed as though it would broaden all of our horizons. Imagine, somebody in rural Georgia (I live there) cud read the NYTimes w/o having to drive to a newsstand in Atlanta!

So when did it change? FB certainly was a big part. Suddenly everybody had a web site and so did all of our friends and relatives. Then we all got smartphones so we could carry our web site around with us. And Amazon came along and won us all over to online shopping. I think those were the steps to the swamp we're in now -- It became very easy to post things online and share them with friends or relatives or strangers anywhere, we could take those thoughts with us everywhere, and we suddenly were all buying things so our preferences for how we were spending our $ became known and valuable.

I think the first step is just to agree that we need some regulation. Yeah, we need a privacy law. Yes, we need to have some way of seeing our digital identity and either correcting mistakes, or adding context.

And we need some way of discouraging disinformation and bad behavior. I think paring back §230 is worth trying. If it means that FB and Twitter don't allow me to post as many snarky comments as I do now, I'm willing to give that up if it also means QAnon has a much harder time spreading. If FB and Amazon yank their "if you like this, you may like that..." algorithms, I'll survive.

But I think we all need to agree to TRY, without panicking over possible consequences. If we abolish/tweak §230 and lots of good stuff disappears, then tweak it again. Should we limit anonymity? Yeah, in some instances. Can I predict the consequences? Nope. But Bob and I worked on the Microsoft campus where they had the motto of "Ready, Shoot, Aim." At the time I thought it was stupid given how many bad initial releases we got of Microsoft software. But over time I've come to appreciate it more: if you want to be certain what you're doing is perfect, you won't get much done. We need to try some things, look at the result, and tweak them some more.

I actually live in Marjorie Greene's district, so the threat of disinformation is very real. Way back in '96 when I started working at MSNBC.com we thought if everybody had access to all the info in the world, everyone would make smart decisions based on the best info. Sadly, we've learned that is not the case, that the sensational lie often is more convincing than the mundane truth.

We don't need one fix; we need a dozen or hundreds.

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